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a + b * c in Brian Meek's "The static semantics file"Although my previous post, translational vs. denotational semantics, failed to stimulate any discussion, hopefully this one will. Consider the following excerpt from Brian Meek's well-written The static semantics file. [...]term = factor | term, multiplying op, factor;andterm = factor, [multiplying op, factor];apparently mean the same (square brackets = zero or more repetitions). However, the recursive version better expresses the associativity from left to right. [...] This seems a bit "off" to me. First of all, how "a + b * c" is parsed is a question of operator precedence, not operator associativity. Second, and more importantly, it seems to me that parsing is clearly a syntactic issue unless you view the semantics of a language as being defined with respect to its concrete rather than abstract syntax. Such a view can be reconciled with the more traditional "semantics is defined with respect to abstract syntax" view in the following manner. Let language L's "broad" semantic function be defined as the composition of L's parser with L's "narrow" semantic function. Another (perhaps weirder) way to look at it is to view the parser as defining a language in its own right, with the abstract syntactic domain of L being the parser's semantic domain. To put this all in Haskell-ish notation,
Another way of looking at this is that syntax can of course be viewed as merely discriminating between valid and invalid sentences, or it can be viewed as including the parsing of sentences if they are valid. The former, "boolean" role for syntax pushes parsing issues somewhere else, perhaps into pragmatics, perhaps into semantics, or, perhaps into some ill-defined area called "static semantics." This last option is of course what Meek is writing about. So, if all we're looking for from a grammar is whether it can generate a sentence or not (the "boolean" role) then, as Meek mentions, it need not deal with ambiguities arising from issues like operator precedence and associativity. Maybe this "boolean" role is what Meek calls a "descriptive" role. The grammar merely describes what valid sentences look like. But I'm having problems relating how a "prescriptive" role includes parsing. Would this mean that an unambiguous grammar, i.e. one capable of parsing, is "prescriptive" in the sense that it tells you where you "should" have put parentheses? Seems like a stretch. Anyway, my final take is this: I think I agree with Meek in the big picture. Different languages draw the syntax/semantics line in different places, but it is always there, and there is nothing useful in between called "static semantics." One of the ways in which you can move the line so that the semantics is bigger is to define the syntax ambiguously with regard to operator precedence or associativity. Then these issues must be defined by the semantics. In the extreme, you could define the syntax of a traditional textual language merely by the character set its programs are expected to be in, leaving everything else to semantics. But in practice this is not a useful way to define a language. By bdenckla at 2005-11-03 22:58 | LtU Forum | previous forum topic | next forum topic | other blogs | 7484 reads
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