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LtU ForumControlling time and spaceEvan's (the Elm guy) strangeloop talk, it is actually quite good (and not bad for Prezi); slides: http://prezi.com/rfgd0rzyiqp_/controlling-time-and-space/ Video of talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Agu6jipKfYw A very nice (and useful) overview about the different flavors of FRP. Extended Axiomatic LanguageAxiomatic language is a formal system for specifying recursively enumerable sets of hierarchical symbolic expressions. But axiomatic language does not have negation. Extended axiomatic language is based on the idea that when one specifies a recursively enumerable set, one is simultaneously specifying the complement of that set (which may not be recursively enumerable). This complement set can be useful for specification. Extended axiomatic language makes use of this complement set and can be considered a form of logic programming negation. The web page defines the language and gives examples. By Walter W. Wilson at 2014-09-17 19:28 | LtU Forum | login or register to post comments | other blogs | 3795 reads
Seeking artricle on syntax sugar and comparing programming languagesI recall there was an article on LtU that defined term syntax sugar. IIRC the generic idea was that syntax sugar requires only the local transformation. And language features that require non-local program rewrites cannot be called syntax sugar and it can be core of argument that one language is higher-level then another. Optimisation by repeated beta- and eta-reductionThe following post recently showed up on Planet Haskell: Morte: an intermediate language for super-optimising functional programs. From the post: I am worried about this because the author explicitly wishes to support both folds and unfolds, and, according to Catamorphisms and anamorphisms = general or primitive recursion, folds and unfolds together have the expressive power of general recursion—so that not every term has a normal form (right?). More generally, it seems to me that being able to offer the strong guarantee that the author offers implies in particular a solution to the halting problem, hence a non-Turing-complete language. Later, the author says: You can take any recursive data type and mechanically transform the type into a fold and transform functions on the type into functions on folds.I have a similar concern here; it seems to me to be saying that folds can express general recursion, but I thought (though I don't have a reference) that they could express only primitive recursion. Have I got something badly conceptually wrong? Re-thinking PrologA recent paper by Oleg Kiselyov and Yukiyoshi Kameyama at the university of Tsukuba discusses weaknesses and areas for improvement to Prolog.
The paper mentions the strength of the approach used by miniKanren (which embeds logic programming with fairer search strategy than normal Prolog into Scheme) and Hansei (which embeds probability based nondeterminism into Ocaml using delimited continuations to allow direct-style expression of monadic code). After motivating some choices by studying the prototypical example of running append backwards they cover running parsers with "maximal munch" rule backwards - something that cannot be (declaratively) expressed in prolog. A very interesting paper on logic programming! It also thanks Tom Schrijvers of CHR fame at the end. Request For Advice and Guidance On Writing a Scheme To C Compiler?Dear Lambda The Ultimate, I've been working very hard recently on writing something I thought would be entirely straightforward: A scheme to C compiler that bootstraps - nothing I do seems to work. On my first attempt (which was able to compile and run its own parser) there was no GC or tail calls so it demanded >8GB of memory and failed, on my next the emitted code blows up so huge that it grinds to a halt. I hope someone could give me some advice on what I should do or what I need to learn to complete this? It would also be interesting to discuss and read about other members experiences. Starting I've been interested in programming languages since I started programming a long time ago, and have explored and written parsers, type checkers and interpreters for a fair selection of different types of programming languages like lisp (of course!), prolog (and minikanren), a cut down version of haskell with hindly milnor type checking as well as some unusual things like linear and reversible programming languages. A long time ago I read Marc Feeley - 90 Minute Scheme to C compiler when it came up on this site and it was fascinating to understand (or so I thought) how a scheme compiler could be done, in particular using the CPS transform to deal with tail calls and call-with-current-continuation. This got me interested in continuations and I studied Appel - Compiling with Continuations but I didn't write a compiler back then. Continuations Since then I've read about Abstracting and Representing Control from Olivier Danvy and written metacircular interpreters that emit continuation semantics (pure lambda terms without any control operators). I also came to prefer delimited continuations rather than call-with-current-continuation and decided that I would like to implement those directly in my own compiler. I noticed that in Marc Feeley's compiler he was able to just use the continuation semantics of call-with-current-continuation as is because it's already in CPS form, on the other hand the continuation semantics for shift and reset are not in CPS form so this technique cannot be used: one would have to CPS transform twice to get the necessary metacontinuations - but this also causes a huge blowup in the number of lambda terms. So I studied other approaches to direct implementation of shift/reset:
In the end I felt like building a runtime for my compiler to target (in C) that handled delimited continuations was something I could add later on but for now I should forget about that (and if it was require in bootstrapping I had an easy way to interpret them), so I just used Matt Might's very clear and simple explanation of hybrid higher order CPS transform How to Compile with Continuations. Getting Started When the got the idea to write a self hosting scheme compiler I quickly wrote out a parser that's able to parse as much of scheme as I needed as well as the file itself. Then I initially came up with something very simple that just performed closure conversion: It was a surprise to me that this was basically enough to execute lambda using C procedures for code and vectors for their environment - it just lacked garbage collection and tail call elimination. I pushed on with this hoping lack of optimisations wouldn't be an issue ending up with a system that had one compiler pass per file as well, some utility functions and a script that chained them all together. This quite successfully compiles all the small simple scheme programs I gave to it (getting a program with the Y combinator to compile and run for the first time was very exciting!) but it just isn't good enough to bootstrap. So I looked back a bit and read over Guy Steele's RABBIT paper and decided to start again from scratch. This time I started with a C runtime that had a simple two space copy and collect GC which uses the stack as the root - the stack itself is executed by a trampoline (a while loop that pops a continuation off the stack and calls it) and the continuations pop arguments off the stack, compute something with them then push a continuation onto the stack and return. I wrote some tests for the runtime: for example compiling recursive and iterative factorial functions by hand. The value of this approach is that you get tail call optimisation "for free" it only requires doing a CPS transform in the compiler. So the overall architecture of the compiler is now:
after that actual C source code is emitted and some simple programs like an infinite lazy stream of fibonacci numbers do execute (with the correct space usage i.e. TCO and GC are working) - but when I started to head towards bootstrapping just adding a recursive definition of the EQUAL? function blow up horrible creating 40k lines of C. Looking for more to read I've looked for more modern things to read that might help me build a self hosting scheme compiler like: and tried to find short readable implementations (studying real world compilers is just too hard since they are so complex and enormous)
but all in all I just don't know what I'm missing - I don't want to give up though because I think there's an important difference between understanding something and actually doing it. In particular I feel like I can't progress in my study of programming languages until I pass this block (I want to experiment with building compilers using Futamura projections like PyPy does after I complete this for one thing). Higher abstraction through NLP and automatic code derivation?While waiting for my plane and thinking about a what a VHDL/Verilog killer would look like, I had a very (un!)original idea: describe what is to be done in English, and let the killer do the code derivation. Here is an example of a description of how I want my blob detection (a computer vision application) be done on incoming images: blob detection, image processing This description is enough for a human to write the code, but not so for a computer, that has no understanding of any of these words. Now my question is, is there anyone working on this? To start working on this, here is what I want to do (in my spare time): I like to hear your reasons on why it is or is not possible! New Wiki about Structured Backus-Naur Form?Hi all :) I'm thinking about extending Wikipedia with a new page: Structured BNF. Is anyone interested in helping in changing content or lecturing it before I publish it? I would appreciate any comment, even if you think that this is not a thing to place in Wiki. Function arity with currying and call-by-push-valueIn λ-calculus, all functions are unary, and n-ary functions are encoded through currying. But knowing the arity of a function can be useful for optimization — a curried function starts computing only after applying it to at least N arguments, and this N can be useful to know.
Below I explain the details. Applications of arity: But function arity is a tricky concept in λ-calculus. For instance, id should be unary, Haskell's ($) is binary, but ($) is defined as equal to id: ($) :: (a -> b) -> a -> b So, a notion of arity seems tricky, and one of my colleague keeps repeating it's a bad idea. Today, while reading a paper using CBPV (Hammer et al. 2014), I got a hunch that the call-by-push-value (CBPV) λ-calculus seems to allow for a natural notion of arity. But Googling does not find this spelled out anywhere, maybe because CBPV seems typically used in theoretical contexts. I'm So, why should CBPV help? (1) It distinguishes values (A) and computations (C): Computations are either functions (A -> C) which take values and return computations, or base computations F A which wrap values in a "return" expression: C ::= A -> C | F A So, the return type of a function is wrapped by the F constructor. In particular, this distinguishes A1 -> A2 -> F A3 (a binary function) from A1 -> F (U (A2 -> F A3)), a unary function returning another unary function. (2) Moreover, we also distinguish partial and full applications: since a full application produces a result of type F A, we need to use the elimination form for F. Thus, after conversion to CBPV, we can distinguish syntactically between partial and full applications. Questions: Bibliography: Liu, Y. A., and Teitelbaum, T. Caching intermediate results for program improvement. In Proceedings of the 1995 ACM SIGPLAN symposium on Partial evaluation and semantics-based program manipulation (New York, NY, USA, 1995), PEPM '95, ACM, pp. 190—201. Programming by page faultingI would normally post this to G+, but I'm in a 3 day vacation weekend behind the great firewall, so here goes. Pursuing a CLOS submission on hackernews this morning, I came across an awesome quote in the comments section:
Many would find this very controversial, but it is increasingly true for younger programmers (and I've gotten into this habit myself). It has serious implications on programming language design: efficient feedback loops are much more important as design occurs more by doing than being done up front, functionality should be discoverable at least by searching. What else? |
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